tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post715112774311355940..comments2024-02-20T02:21:56.040+05:30Comments on Snowscapes of The Himalayas: In the Valley of the Jadhs- June 2013 (Part 1/2)Him-Pathikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01898524845912798206noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-30883445547348838282022-12-24T22:38:09.829+05:302022-12-24T22:38:09.829+05:30Hi...Yes you can visit after organising a permit t...Hi...Yes you can visit after organising a permit thru any local tour operatorHim-Pathikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898524845912798206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-88684193607803731452022-09-06T15:51:44.226+05:302022-09-06T15:51:44.226+05:30Thank you for this detailed blog post. Am planning...Thank you for this detailed blog post. Am planning to visit this November. Hope to be able to go and see this beautiful place weather permitting!<br />Would you have any idea of the current status of roads and whether civilians are allowed to Janak tal?goabirderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00159984679191969773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-77816348845644622732016-11-29T22:59:14.603+05:302016-11-29T22:59:14.603+05:30@ Yogendran
Chini is the current day town of Reko...@ Yogendran<br /> Chini is the current day town of Rekong Peo...the HQ of Kinnaur district. <br />Now the closest i can think of "Shamlegh" is "Shanglah" the name that the british used for Sangla ...about 30 Km before Chitkul ...on the banks of the Baspa<br />Him-Pathikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898524845912798206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-85631810415354563992016-11-29T22:55:08.656+05:302016-11-29T22:55:08.656+05:30Wilson in his book "A summer ramble in Himala...Wilson in his book "A summer ramble in Himalayas" mentions about this pass explicitly and in fact devotes almost a paragraph to it. Him-Pathikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898524845912798206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-42497987976151110122016-11-29T22:53:44.508+05:302016-11-29T22:53:44.508+05:30Thanks Yogendran ...for that input. I will check. ...Thanks Yogendran ...for that input. I will check. <br /><br />But not difficult to imagine. It seems Kipling had met Fredrick Wilson....must have been inspired by him which caused him to portray him as the protagonist in "The Man who would be King". They lived in the same time in history. <br /><br />Coming to Wilson, he seems to have known about this pass and apparently used it privately to get to Kinnaur. In that case, its probable that the two may have discussed it. Hutchison goes as far as to say (in Raja of Harsil) that Wilson followed two russian spies over this pass to Kinnaur and killed them in an accidental brawl. <br /><br />So one can put 2 and 2 together. But I am doubtful if Wilson told him about the details of the pass. He was apparently very secretive about the route to and people of Nelong Valley. So unlikely that Kipling would give a faithful description. But I will read and come back to you on this. <br /><br />Thanks and cheers!! Him-Pathikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898524845912798206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-5378814594187470602016-11-29T15:18:31.045+05:302016-11-29T15:18:31.045+05:30This route - from the Chitkul end to Nelang and th...This route - from the Chitkul end to Nelang and then from Gangotri to Kedarnath and then onto Saharanpur - seems to be the one followed by KIM and Teshoo Lama in their quest (see the last part of the book by Kipling).<br /><br />I am curious how Kipling could have imagined such a difficult route at all. <br />Perhaps Ashutosh can identify Shamlegh - the place in Chini valley from where Kim starts back?<br />K P Yogendrannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-91121632043553745872015-09-30T17:26:39.159+05:302015-09-30T17:26:39.159+05:30Hi,
Interesting read. Came yesterday from Jadung. ...Hi,<br />Interesting read. Came yesterday from Jadung. To inform you all, now one can procure permits from Uttarkashi up to Nelang. <br />This is as a result of continuous efforts of the Hotel Association Uttarkashi to open the Nelang Valley to tourists. So on Sept 28th 2015 a group of 30 of us with special day visit were allowed up to Jadung. <br /><br />We hope with the support of ITBP and the Forest department other areas in the Nelang valley become accessible. <br /><br />Shree Singhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14614345155478384470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-3675935741839182662015-06-07T16:44:25.473+05:302015-06-07T16:44:25.473+05:30I am researching for Nelang and Jadhang villages e...I am researching for Nelang and Jadhang villages especially their historical origin - seeking evidence for their claims under Forest Rights Act 2006, under an ICSSR sponsored Research Project on Sustainable Development of Mountain Communities undertaken in the Upper Taknore villages along with other villages in Bhatwari Block of Uttarkashi District. Your blog has provided important references. Thanks a lot. I would be acknowledging your blog.<br />Thanks for the wonderful work<br />Warm regards<br />Malathi<br />Dr.A. Malathi<br />Assistant Professor, Department of Social Work, University of Delhidelearning-madhurimalathihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17760123446476013341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-54121179694355207242015-03-15T00:22:38.048+05:302015-03-15T00:22:38.048+05:30Hi Sudhin...glad you pointed that out.. Guess when...Hi Sudhin...glad you pointed that out.. Guess when he distinguishes Garhwal and Himalayan Garhwal he was precisely talking about the icy ranges north of the lower Garhwal mountains. ..what the Tehri Durbar called as Taknore Range... the Tibetians essentially used to contend that the Upper Taknore range came under the Chongsa province. This however was contested by Tehri Kingdom backed by the British. ..and around Wilson's time the durbar had erected border pillars atop Tsang Chok La pass. .. in the context of the history during Starchy;s !! can have such mentions :-) Him-Pathikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898524845912798206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-66019680253085651422015-03-09T23:44:58.736+05:302015-03-09T23:44:58.736+05:30Hey Ashutosh,
As I discovered just a few days ago,...Hey Ashutosh,<br />As I discovered just a few days ago, apparently the Tibetan name for the entire Himalayan Garhwal is also Chongsa. <br />Ref 'Physical Geography of Western Tibet', page 2 by H. Strachey (1854).<br />https://books.google.co.in/books?id=FLJKJVmKq-YC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=gyagar&source=bl&ots=JIbz4F9rFM&sig=gwXMZ-Ix5hdiwVj-OHBi3etPkz0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nrP4VJ7-NsuUuASMgoGICQ&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAjgo#v=onepage&q=gyagar&f=false<br /><br />Cheers, SudhinSudhinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-48661707885820667022015-01-10T02:30:01.216+05:302015-01-10T02:30:01.216+05:30Thank you Jotendra for your kind compliments. I am...Thank you Jotendra for your kind compliments. I am overwhelmed with joy that my work has been of some use for you to link back to your ancestral history.<br /><br />Mario ... I do appreciate your curiosity and can empathise with the feeling. For me it was the first view of that board that says entry is prohibited. Can not say for you..perhaps a similar cause if you have visited Gangotri..or perhaps you may have read the article of our exploration or that of Tapan Pandit's of H Kapadia or R Bhattacharjee's account..or may be JB Auden's or JB Fraser's accounts. To answer your question yes, you need a written permission from the DM Uttarkashi allowing you to visit the Nelang valley (specific locations) for an approved period of time. Him-Pathikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898524845912798206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-27171624368261773792014-12-24T13:14:11.618+05:302014-12-24T13:14:11.618+05:30i would like to read it..a s a Jadh tribe i would ...i would like to read it..a s a Jadh tribe i would love to know everything belong to my forefathers .It is surprised to see such wonderful land .my granny used to tell me everything abt sang and chungsa..our people still use to worship our deity and our shepherd use to go in summers .My father had many sheeps n horse ..now we all left becoz no trade n no education n hospital..our younger generation now studying in doon aur delhi.it is very good to see n read information abt my people..thank very much ..JOTENDRA SINGH NEGIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16811013741988654313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-23277035116211710622014-11-25T14:10:49.872+05:302014-11-25T14:10:49.872+05:30Are permissions required to visit Nelang and Jadha...Are permissions required to visit Nelang and Jadhang. Though not a trekker or an explorer, these two villages and the Jadh Botiyas have been in my mind since last 2 years. And I do not know how this idea came to me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17444188012830128434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-62756373914607950502014-10-09T10:24:28.384+05:302014-10-09T10:24:28.384+05:30Thank you Jotendra for your comment. I am indeed o...Thank you Jotendra for your comment. I am indeed overwhelmed with emotion that I could be of help to make you dig deeper into the ancient times of your people. Thanks for leaving that comment. I did some further work on the historical aspects which you may find useful which is published in our recent article on Chunsa Khaga of the Tsor Gad valley of "Chongsa" as you say it :-)Him-Pathikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898524845912798206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-22335863384748741682014-09-29T09:05:48.444+05:302014-09-29T09:05:48.444+05:30I am from this valley.My village is Chongsa.I neve...I am from this valley.My village is Chongsa.I never went thr my grand father use to tell me abt Nelang and Jadung.I am surprised to see history abt my land. Thank u very much bringing and informing abt history of my land.But few things r not very true anyway i like it..thanks<br />jotendra singhJOTENDRA SINGH NEGIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16811013741988654313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5294633494171765004.post-81655186675834449102014-09-21T22:56:39.973+05:302014-09-21T22:56:39.973+05:30thank u very much for great information of my land...thank u very much for great information of my land and my origin.I never been my for fathers village.I am a Jadh.I am surprised to see this page.Most of information about my valley is authentic n my family had great history in jadh tribe.i use to hear from my grand parents how they use to visit Kailash mansarovar from my valley.I uncle still use to visit my village Nelang..this jotendra singh negi. JOTENDRA SINGH NEGIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16811013741988654313noreply@blogger.com